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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Brian Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-50167</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annette you are correct: 
  
&lt;em&gt;With its intolerance and standover tactics, the militant arm of the gay lobby is shooting itself in the foot.  The vitriol and vile abuse heaped on anyone who speaks up for traditional marriage is no way to win hearts and minds. Saying anything that is not wholly supportive of the gay-rights agenda is the new taboo - with same-sex marriage and adoption the hottest of hot-button topics at the frontline of the culture wars. &lt;/em&gt;   
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/gays-must-curb-vile-vitriol/story-e6frfhqf-1226167514970</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annette you are correct: </p>
<p><em>With its intolerance and standover tactics, the militant arm of the gay lobby is shooting itself in the foot.  The vitriol and vile abuse heaped on anyone who speaks up for traditional marriage is no way to win hearts and minds. Saying anything that is not wholly supportive of the gay-rights agenda is the new taboo &#8211; with same-sex marriage and adoption the hottest of hot-button topics at the frontline of the culture wars. </em><br />
<a href="http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/gays-must-curb-vile-vitriol/story-e6frfhqf-1226167514970" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/gays-must-curb-vile-vitriol/story-e6frfhqf-1226167514970</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-50160</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
You have made the comment:
&#039;Many of us are more than willing to debate these issues in a sane and friendly way....&#039;
Can you please give me one single example where any of your side has been &#039;sane and friendly&#039; towards someone who has publicly expressed an opinion on gay marriage with which you did not agree?

One example will suffice.......maybe we could ask the following people how &#039;sane and friendly&#039; and &#039;tolerated&#039; their views have been received.
Margaret Court?
Jim Wallace?
Wendy Francis?
Lyle Shelton?
David van Gend?
Bill Muehlenberg?
Prime Minister Gillard?
Tony Abbott?
Miranda Devine?
Loree Rudd?
Reverend Ian Copland?
Professor Patrick Parkinson?
Jeff Kennett?

Just a few brave souls that spring to mind.... maybe you could also ask the Labor MPs who spoke against gay marriage what sort of &#039;sane and friendly&#039; responses they have received from their colleagues and  other SSM advocates...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
You have made the comment:<br />
&#8216;Many of us are more than willing to debate these issues in a sane and friendly way&#8230;.&#8217;<br />
Can you please give me one single example where any of your side has been &#8216;sane and friendly&#8217; towards someone who has publicly expressed an opinion on gay marriage with which you did not agree?</p>
<p>One example will suffice&#8230;&#8230;.maybe we could ask the following people how &#8216;sane and friendly&#8217; and &#8216;tolerated&#8217; their views have been received.<br />
Margaret Court?<br />
Jim Wallace?<br />
Wendy Francis?<br />
Lyle Shelton?<br />
David van Gend?<br />
Bill Muehlenberg?<br />
Prime Minister Gillard?<br />
Tony Abbott?<br />
Miranda Devine?<br />
Loree Rudd?<br />
Reverend Ian Copland?<br />
Professor Patrick Parkinson?<br />
Jeff Kennett?</p>
<p>Just a few brave souls that spring to mind&#8230;. maybe you could also ask the Labor MPs who spoke against gay marriage what sort of &#8216;sane and friendly&#8217; responses they have received from their colleagues and  other SSM advocates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Up the Ante</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-50065</link>
		<dc:creator>Up the Ante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Annette for the article, it helps keep the rest of us informed about this debate and how those who disagree are treated. I have always held the view that the bringing up of children, the parents whether same sex or not, want the best for the children under their care, however, we may have the same goals but it is the different roles that both a mother and father bring that assists in the balancing act called life. Same goals different roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Annette for the article, it helps keep the rest of us informed about this debate and how those who disagree are treated. I have always held the view that the bringing up of children, the parents whether same sex or not, want the best for the children under their care, however, we may have the same goals but it is the different roles that both a mother and father bring that assists in the balancing act called life. Same goals different roles.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Michael O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-50042</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Reaction is WILDLY inappropriate and any sane person would not condone that girl being treated that way.
That being said she is being used as a puppet by adults who should know better, the things she said are still offensive and ill informed. 

Many of us are more than willing to debate these issues in a sane and friendly way, I disagree with several issues pertaining to equality issues etc, we debate heavily and still get along well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Reaction is WILDLY inappropriate and any sane person would not condone that girl being treated that way.<br />
That being said she is being used as a puppet by adults who should know better, the things she said are still offensive and ill informed. </p>
<p>Many of us are more than willing to debate these issues in a sane and friendly way, I disagree with several issues pertaining to equality issues etc, we debate heavily and still get along well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-50035</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read this article which I think perfectly illustrates the kind of &#039;tolerance&#039; we now expect of same sex marriage advocates towards those who express other views.....

www.lifesitenews.com/news/14-year-old-homeschooled-girl-receives-death-threats-for-defending-marriage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read this article which I think perfectly illustrates the kind of &#8216;tolerance&#8217; we now expect of same sex marriage advocates towards those who express other views&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/14-year-old-homeschooled-girl-receives-death-threats-for-defending-marriage" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/14-year-old-homeschooled-girl-receives-death-threats-for-defending-marriage</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Up the Ante</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-49991</link>
		<dc:creator>Up the Ante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a well thought out response...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a well thought out response&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-49887</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Given that our politicians are constantly pandering  to the demands of the demands of the 1% of homosexuals, it is not unreasonable to expect them to have the courtesy to  front a forum of Christian constituents (which make up far more than 1%).
I note your earlier bullying of Mrs Francis when you publicly slandered her as &#039;homophobic&#039; and &#039;bigoted&#039; when she  simply, and respectfully, expressed an opinion of which you did not agree. Can we expect more of the same &#039;tolerant&#039; behavior, at this forum?

it really would be a treat, to have  people such as yourself attend a forum such as this, and behave with civility, respect and tolerance when opinions and views are discussed which you might disagree with........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Given that our politicians are constantly pandering  to the demands of the demands of the 1% of homosexuals, it is not unreasonable to expect them to have the courtesy to  front a forum of Christian constituents (which make up far more than 1%).<br />
I note your earlier bullying of Mrs Francis when you publicly slandered her as &#8216;homophobic&#8217; and &#8216;bigoted&#8217; when she  simply, and respectfully, expressed an opinion of which you did not agree. Can we expect more of the same &#8216;tolerant&#8217; behavior, at this forum?</p>
<p>it really would be a treat, to have  people such as yourself attend a forum such as this, and behave with civility, respect and tolerance when opinions and views are discussed which you might disagree with&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Adele</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-49608</link>
		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also am making it a priority to attend a similar forum being held in the Redlands on Thursday night.  Politicians are free to choose what events they do and do not attend.  I am more interested in the questions asked and the responses from those who do attend and the audience.  

Adele</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also am making it a priority to attend a similar forum being held in the Redlands on Thursday night.  Politicians are free to choose what events they do and do not attend.  I am more interested in the questions asked and the responses from those who do attend and the audience.  </p>
<p>Adele</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Michael O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-49545</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do these politicians have some obligation to attend events that the Christian Lobby hold?
You do not hold power over our politicians, they are not yours to beckon to and demand that they attend your events, they should not fear the wrath of the Christian voters. 
There are so many beautiful, wonderful christians in this world that do not attempt the things this group do.
I for one, will personally attempt to be at this event on Sunday, I look forward to hearing what Campbell has and seeing Wendy again
Love and Sunshine
Michael (RipnRoll) O&#039;Brien
:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do these politicians have some obligation to attend events that the Christian Lobby hold?<br />
You do not hold power over our politicians, they are not yours to beckon to and demand that they attend your events, they should not fear the wrath of the Christian voters.<br />
There are so many beautiful, wonderful christians in this world that do not attempt the things this group do.<br />
I for one, will personally attempt to be at this event on Sunday, I look forward to hearing what Campbell has and seeing Wendy again<br />
Love and Sunshine<br />
Michael (RipnRoll) O&#8217;Brien<br />
 <img src='http://www.acl.org.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Keith Legge</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-49529</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Legge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Keech and Choi profess to know Jesus personally?  It seems so  did the former PM.  I can see very little in much of activity and speech to indicate a real walk with Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Keech and Choi profess to know Jesus personally?  It seems so  did the former PM.  I can see very little in much of activity and speech to indicate a real walk with Jesus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by MJ</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-49477</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would she go ?  Just this week I came home to a brochure from the Australian Family Association (which is supported by the ACL) imploring me and other Ashgrove voters to vote Kate Jones last, because she has supported rights for same-sex families during this last Parliamentary term.  The ACL has already made its mind up about Kate Jones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would she go ?  Just this week I came home to a brochure from the Australian Family Association (which is supported by the ACL) imploring me and other Ashgrove voters to vote Kate Jones last, because she has supported rights for same-sex families during this last Parliamentary term.  The ACL has already made its mind up about Kate Jones.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ACL disappointed by Kate Jones’ no show at candidates’ forum by Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/acl-disappointed-by-kate-jones%e2%80%99-no-show-at-candidates%e2%80%99-forum/#comment-49470</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If  Margaret Keech and Michael Choi want to protect their images and upstanding character, I suggest they distance themselves from the Labor party as soon as possible.  With every passing day the Labor party displays their ever increasing contempt for Christianity, family and morality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If  Margaret Keech and Michael Choi want to protect their images and upstanding character, I suggest they distance themselves from the Labor party as soon as possible.  With every passing day the Labor party displays their ever increasing contempt for Christianity, family and morality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on R18+ decision should not pre-empt classification review by Wilheim</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2011/03/r18-decision-should-not-pre-empt-classification-review/#comment-48827</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 04:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this stuff (rape, fetishes, and gore) is already in games, and guess what, the R18+ classification hasn&#039;t been introduced. All of you seem to think that this stuff will flood the market as soon as it&#039;s passed, but on average only 2-3 games are refused classification every year, and these games don&#039;t even make to the shelf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this stuff (rape, fetishes, and gore) is already in games, and guess what, the R18+ classification hasn&#8217;t been introduced. All of you seem to think that this stuff will flood the market as soon as it&#8217;s passed, but on average only 2-3 games are refused classification every year, and these games don&#8217;t even make to the shelf.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Changing marriage not a high priority for GetUp ‘members’ by S</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2011/12/mr-changing-marriage-not-a-high-priority-for-getup-%e2%80%98members%e2%80%99/#comment-48631</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was my last comment &#039;moderated&#039; out of existence???
It was not offensive but stated quite simply that the issue is of major importance to the 5% who feel discriminated against, but not the 95% it doesn&#039;t affect. 
How can you possibly criticise GetUp! for &#039;manipulation&#039; when you yourselves delete comments you don&#039;t like?

Oh wait I remember:   Christian values = Hypocrisy. 
Never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was my last comment &#8216;moderated&#8217; out of existence???<br />
It was not offensive but stated quite simply that the issue is of major importance to the 5% who feel discriminated against, but not the 95% it doesn&#8217;t affect.<br />
How can you possibly criticise GetUp! for &#8216;manipulation&#8217; when you yourselves delete comments you don&#8217;t like?</p>
<p>Oh wait I remember:   Christian values = Hypocrisy.<br />
Never mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pick of the news – Monday, February 20, 2012 by Jill Stirling</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/pick-of-the-news-%e2%80%93-monday-february-20-2012/#comment-48352</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Stirling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha Ha ha-Government provide proper funding for everyone!! Not going to happen. They won&#039;t do anything. Commission another report??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha Ha ha-Government provide proper funding for everyone!! Not going to happen. They won&#8217;t do anything. Commission another report??</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pick of the news – Monday, February 20, 2012 by Brian Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/pick-of-the-news-%e2%80%93-monday-february-20-2012/#comment-48085</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gillard government is collapsing all around her.   And what is she doing ?   

Having a dinner party with gay-marriage proponents.  An event organised by GetUp, whose &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/mr-same-sex-marriage-doesn%E2%80%99t-rate-in-getup-survey-of-%E2%80%9Chundreds-of-thousands-of-australians%E2%80%9D/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;own members are not convinced&lt;/a&gt; of the merits thereof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gillard government is collapsing all around her.   And what is she doing ?   </p>
<p>Having a dinner party with gay-marriage proponents.  An event organised by GetUp, whose <a href="http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/mr-same-sex-marriage-doesn%E2%80%99t-rate-in-getup-survey-of-%E2%80%9Chundreds-of-thousands-of-australians%E2%80%9D/" rel="nofollow">own members are not convinced</a> of the merits thereof.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pick of the news – Saturday, February 18, 2012 by Jill Stirling</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/pick-of-the-news-%e2%80%93-saturday-february-18-2012/#comment-47912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill Stirling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who really cares about the Gillard /Rudd thing. Sick to death of it. Don&#039;t want either of them. Just an election and let us decide, asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who really cares about the Gillard /Rudd thing. Sick to death of it. Don&#8217;t want either of them. Just an election and let us decide, asap.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pick of the news – Saturday, February 18, 2012 by Damien</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/pick-of-the-news-%e2%80%93-saturday-february-18-2012/#comment-47486</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ACL,

For some reason the ABC website has the dates wrong, the story referring to religious leaders coming together was actually 8 days ago on the Hannity program on Fox.  You can cross check the quotes to verify if you like.

Hours prior to that program Obama reiterated that the government will not force Catholics to give free pills, it would be health insurers.  But Hannity had his guests booked so he went ahead anyway.  Watch the one contributor try to explain that to hannity, it&#039;s a classic.

Since then Rick Santorum&#039;s major campaign contributor Foster Fliess has made a rather sick joke about the pill. This forced Rick to come on Hannity&#039;s radio show yesterday to confirm that he actually believes the government should give the pill and in 16 years he has voted for free govt pills a number of times.  (I actually felt sorry for Rick, he was dragged into this).

With Rick&#039;s female poll numbers crashing overnight....this story will be as dead as a door knob by monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ACL,</p>
<p>For some reason the ABC website has the dates wrong, the story referring to religious leaders coming together was actually 8 days ago on the Hannity program on Fox.  You can cross check the quotes to verify if you like.</p>
<p>Hours prior to that program Obama reiterated that the government will not force Catholics to give free pills, it would be health insurers.  But Hannity had his guests booked so he went ahead anyway.  Watch the one contributor try to explain that to hannity, it&#8217;s a classic.</p>
<p>Since then Rick Santorum&#8217;s major campaign contributor Foster Fliess has made a rather sick joke about the pill. This forced Rick to come on Hannity&#8217;s radio show yesterday to confirm that he actually believes the government should give the pill and in 16 years he has voted for free govt pills a number of times.  (I actually felt sorry for Rick, he was dragged into this).</p>
<p>With Rick&#8217;s female poll numbers crashing overnight&#8230;.this story will be as dead as a door knob by monday.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wendy Francis on the Political Spot by Mark Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/wendy-francis-on-the-political-spot-3/#comment-47365</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LNP leader Campbell Newman has stated that he is in favour of same-sex marriage and has not changed his view. So, given this, when it comes to abortion, prostitution, drugs, alcohol or any other important issue don&#039;t expect him to be on your side as he will go with the majority /poll results to stay in power.

Christians are not taken seriously (unlike the gay lobby) as we are perceived as being weak and insipid, a bunch of &quot;do gooders&quot; who don&#039;t want to be arguing with anyone. 

We need to become militant and aggressive  just like the gay lobby to make a better impact.

In some ways Premier Anna Bligh ( Emily&#039;s List member pro-abortion for starters) was more honest by not apprearing as she would totally disagree with every point made by the ACL and needs every vote that she can muster as she wishes to remain the Godless Premier of Queensland.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LNP leader Campbell Newman has stated that he is in favour of same-sex marriage and has not changed his view. So, given this, when it comes to abortion, prostitution, drugs, alcohol or any other important issue don&#8217;t expect him to be on your side as he will go with the majority /poll results to stay in power.</p>
<p>Christians are not taken seriously (unlike the gay lobby) as we are perceived as being weak and insipid, a bunch of &#8220;do gooders&#8221; who don&#8217;t want to be arguing with anyone. </p>
<p>We need to become militant and aggressive  just like the gay lobby to make a better impact.</p>
<p>In some ways Premier Anna Bligh ( Emily&#8217;s List member pro-abortion for starters) was more honest by not apprearing as she would totally disagree with every point made by the ACL and needs every vote that she can muster as she wishes to remain the Godless Premier of Queensland.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>Comment on New euthanasia bill for SA by Alison Blackwood</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2011/02/new-euthanasia-bill-for-sa/#comment-47122</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Blackwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a Christian.  I am 70 and enjoying a very active and healthy life taking no prescription medication and likely to be so for another 10 years or so.  
But I want the right to leave the party while it is still good.  Even if I do not experience terminal illness or prolonged pain (which cannot in some cases be eased with drugs) I do not want to end up in the totally undignified and dependent position of being nappied at night, thrown in with other oldies with age being the only thing in common and subjected to the appalling junk they call food in aged care facilities.  And despite all the soppy words that old people are looked after well, I have heard and seen how so many are treated -  at best sentimentally patronized, at worst shouted at even if  they are not deaf and told &#039;that&#039;s a good girl&#039;  for eating up or obeying some nursing command, and dumped in death&#039;s waiting room  to dribble away their final years. 

Useless to quote biblical passages as i don&#039;t believe in the bible.   I have a right to end my life when I choose not prolong it because  some religious do gooding nutter tells me it is God&#039;s will.  If others believe this that&#039;s OK with me but give me the respect of choosing what I feel is best for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a Christian.  I am 70 and enjoying a very active and healthy life taking no prescription medication and likely to be so for another 10 years or so.<br />
But I want the right to leave the party while it is still good.  Even if I do not experience terminal illness or prolonged pain (which cannot in some cases be eased with drugs) I do not want to end up in the totally undignified and dependent position of being nappied at night, thrown in with other oldies with age being the only thing in common and subjected to the appalling junk they call food in aged care facilities.  And despite all the soppy words that old people are looked after well, I have heard and seen how so many are treated &#8211;  at best sentimentally patronized, at worst shouted at even if  they are not deaf and told &#8216;that&#8217;s a good girl&#8217;  for eating up or obeying some nursing command, and dumped in death&#8217;s waiting room  to dribble away their final years. </p>
<p>Useless to quote biblical passages as i don&#8217;t believe in the bible.   I have a right to end my life when I choose not prolong it because  some religious do gooding nutter tells me it is God&#8217;s will.  If others believe this that&#8217;s OK with me but give me the respect of choosing what I feel is best for me!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Have your say on the same-sex marriage inquiry by Leighton</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/have-your-say-on-same-sex-marriage-inquiry/#comment-47106</link>
		<dc:creator>Leighton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to what we are repeatedly told, there&#039;s no discrimination against homosexuals getting married in Australia.  
They can get married just like anyone else, but to qualify for the right, they must comply with rules that all other married couples must meet, including:- 
(a) you can only marry someone of the opposite sex;
(b) that person can not be a close relative;
(c) you both must be &quot;of age&quot;;
(d) you can only marry one person at a time;  etc.
These rules are for the benefit of society, but I don&#039;t hear constant screams from the general population objecting to them.
Now we have a noisy minority group who want to change these time-honoured rules to suite their own agenda.  I wonder which rule this group will want to change next?  
A homosexual couple can not procreate, and that&#039;s the end of it.  They simply don&#039;t &quot;qualify&quot;.   If they were a naturally occurring species (as they claim), they would be extinct after one generation. 
The homosexual lobby wants society to change to suite their wishes;  and so for political expediency, some irresponsible and short-sighted politicians are supporting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to what we are repeatedly told, there&#8217;s no discrimination against homosexuals getting married in Australia.<br />
They can get married just like anyone else, but to qualify for the right, they must comply with rules that all other married couples must meet, including:-<br />
(a) you can only marry someone of the opposite sex;<br />
(b) that person can not be a close relative;<br />
(c) you both must be &#8220;of age&#8221;;<br />
(d) you can only marry one person at a time;  etc.<br />
These rules are for the benefit of society, but I don&#8217;t hear constant screams from the general population objecting to them.<br />
Now we have a noisy minority group who want to change these time-honoured rules to suite their own agenda.  I wonder which rule this group will want to change next?<br />
A homosexual couple can not procreate, and that&#8217;s the end of it.  They simply don&#8217;t &#8220;qualify&#8221;.   If they were a naturally occurring species (as they claim), they would be extinct after one generation.<br />
The homosexual lobby wants society to change to suite their wishes;  and so for political expediency, some irresponsible and short-sighted politicians are supporting them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What to make of this week&#8217;s onslaught of same-sex marriage legislation by Mark Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/what-to-make-of-this-weeks-onslaught-of-same-sex-marriage-legislation/#comment-47028</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gay lobby and complicint politicians of all persuasions have the clever mantra that same-sex marriage is about &quot;human rights and equality&quot; . This is a load of rubbish. Every civilisation from the beginning of time is based upon marriage between a man and a woman propogating the next generation.

Same-sex marriage is a dead end relationship that produces nothing as it is unproductive. In fact  in some cases it has created paedaphelia and abuse of boys

In 2008 in Masachuettes (USA) same sex marriage was legalised. The education, legal and health systems were changed. Kindergarden children were introduced to homosexual couples, lesbian couples, transvestites and persons undergoing a sex change - all these persons were presented to the kindy children as being normal parents just like your mum and dad.

Further, by law school teachers in Massuchetes have to teach schhol aged children that homosexuality is normal when it is a disorientation. 

Australians are lethargic and naive and seem to think that it is nothing...when in fact it is everything....thus the reason for the gays to want marriage for respectability and visibility reasons. They don&#039;t care about the children it is all about meeting the wants and needs of the gays.

It is a nonsense that gays are born this way as they make a deliberate choice to be gay and are aggressive with forcing their way of life and values on the rest of society.

It is a myth to say that there are many persons who are gay when at best it is 2% of the population.

We need to protect Aussie kids and the next generation from this abomination to mankind and ensure that the gay lobby fails in its bid to re-engineer our society to suit their disatrous agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gay lobby and complicint politicians of all persuasions have the clever mantra that same-sex marriage is about &#8220;human rights and equality&#8221; . This is a load of rubbish. Every civilisation from the beginning of time is based upon marriage between a man and a woman propogating the next generation.</p>
<p>Same-sex marriage is a dead end relationship that produces nothing as it is unproductive. In fact  in some cases it has created paedaphelia and abuse of boys</p>
<p>In 2008 in Masachuettes (USA) same sex marriage was legalised. The education, legal and health systems were changed. Kindergarden children were introduced to homosexual couples, lesbian couples, transvestites and persons undergoing a sex change &#8211; all these persons were presented to the kindy children as being normal parents just like your mum and dad.</p>
<p>Further, by law school teachers in Massuchetes have to teach schhol aged children that homosexuality is normal when it is a disorientation. </p>
<p>Australians are lethargic and naive and seem to think that it is nothing&#8230;when in fact it is everything&#8230;.thus the reason for the gays to want marriage for respectability and visibility reasons. They don&#8217;t care about the children it is all about meeting the wants and needs of the gays.</p>
<p>It is a nonsense that gays are born this way as they make a deliberate choice to be gay and are aggressive with forcing their way of life and values on the rest of society.</p>
<p>It is a myth to say that there are many persons who are gay when at best it is 2% of the population.</p>
<p>We need to protect Aussie kids and the next generation from this abomination to mankind and ensure that the gay lobby fails in its bid to re-engineer our society to suit their disatrous agenda.</p>
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		<title>Comment on MR: Same-sex marriage doesn’t rate in GetUp survey of “hundreds of thousands of Australians” by Leftie</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/mr-same-sex-marriage-doesn%e2%80%99t-rate-in-getup-survey-of-%e2%80%9chundreds-of-thousands-of-australians%e2%80%9d/#comment-46977</link>
		<dc:creator>Leftie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay marriage not an issue to the 95% of Australians who aren&#039;t gay?  WELL DUH! Gay marriage a symbolic and vitally important issue to those (left wing minorities) that actually feel discriminated against and persecuted. WELL DOUBLE DUH!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay marriage not an issue to the 95% of Australians who aren&#8217;t gay?  WELL DUH! Gay marriage a symbolic and vitally important issue to those (left wing minorities) that actually feel discriminated against and persecuted. WELL DOUBLE DUH!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Including biological details on birth certificates is a good move by Annette</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/including-biological-details-on-birth-certificates-is-a-good-move/#comment-46953</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent submission Mr Hutt.
It seems ludicrous that birth certificates now need legislation to ensure that  truthful biological information is included.
What is this country coming to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent submission Mr Hutt.<br />
It seems ludicrous that birth certificates now need legislation to ensure that  truthful biological information is included.<br />
What is this country coming to?</p>
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		<title>Comment on MR: Same-sex marriage doesn’t rate in GetUp survey of “hundreds of thousands of Australians” by Brian Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/mr-same-sex-marriage-doesn%e2%80%99t-rate-in-getup-survey-of-%e2%80%9chundreds-of-thousands-of-australians%e2%80%9d/#comment-46918</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GetUp! top issues:   http://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/generous/vision-2012/vision-2012/ 
 - and 
The Greens&#039; top issues:  http://greens.org.au/policies
 
A distinct similarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GetUp! top issues:   <a href="http://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/generous/vision-2012/vision-2012/" rel="nofollow">http://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/generous/vision-2012/vision-2012/</a><br />
 &#8211; and<br />
The Greens&#8217; top issues:  <a href="http://greens.org.au/policies" rel="nofollow">http://greens.org.au/policies</a></p>
<p>A distinct similarity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on MR: Same-sex marriage doesn’t rate in GetUp survey of “hundreds of thousands of Australians” by sam</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/mr-same-sex-marriage-doesn%e2%80%99t-rate-in-getup-survey-of-%e2%80%9chundreds-of-thousands-of-australians%e2%80%9d/#comment-46910</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no!   That could not be right.    
Surely not - GetUp management running their own agenda.    

Wait  -  didn&#039;t I read something like that before ?  
at:   http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2011/3/inside-getup-and-the-new-youth-politics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no!   That could not be right.<br />
Surely not &#8211; GetUp management running their own agenda.    </p>
<p>Wait  &#8211;  didn&#8217;t I read something like that before ?<br />
at:   <a href="http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2011/3/inside-getup-and-the-new-youth-politics" rel="nofollow">http://www.quadrant.org.au/magazine/issue/2011/3/inside-getup-and-the-new-youth-politics</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What to make of this week&#8217;s onslaught of same-sex marriage legislation by Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/what-to-make-of-this-weeks-onslaught-of-same-sex-marriage-legislation/#comment-46858</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 06:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Philip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Philip</p>
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		<title>Comment on 22 senior church leaders call on Labor not to change marriage by Lance Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2011/12/19-senior-church-leaders-call-on-labor-not-to-change-marriage/#comment-46857</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 06:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A time when silence is not golden but plain yellow!  It&#039;s a contest between the &#039;silent majority&#039; and the &#039;noisy minority&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A time when silence is not golden but plain yellow!  It&#8217;s a contest between the &#8216;silent majority&#8217; and the &#8216;noisy minority&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What to make of this week&#8217;s onslaught of same-sex marriage legislation by Philip Impey</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/what-to-make-of-this-weeks-onslaught-of-same-sex-marriage-legislation/#comment-46849</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Impey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 05:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again i am surprised that as a Christian Lobby group, the fundamental &quot;Christian-ness&quot; of marriage is either missed or overlooked.
Here is an extract of what I shall be sending to the Senate enquiry. 

I contend that the heterosexual marriage argument will never be won on equal rights grounds. I believe the argument needs to be forcefully put from &quot;a respect for cultural traditions&quot; perspective.
In our pluralistic society, tolerance for different ideas, persons, cultures, races and religions is paramount - unlike majoritarianism whereby the majority&#039;s sentiments rain at the expense of the minority. Eg: We are asked to respect &quot;gay rights&quot;.
Even though the majority of people identify as &quot;Christians&quot; actual practicing Christians are clearly in the minority.
Holy matrimony (marriage) is a sacred institution to the Christian Church and goes beyond the simple joining of man and woman to form the union which enables God&#039;s blessing of children to the couple.
It symbolises the relationship of Christ to His church.
As our Holy Scripture states:
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 
In Rev 21:9 the Church is referred to as &quot;the wife of the Lamb&quot;
Marriage denotes intimacy where two become one flesh in the same way as through Holy Communion Christ and His Church become one.
Christ is to the Church as Man is to Woman in marriage.

The marriage of man to man is blasphemous and strikes at the very foundation of the Christian doctrine.
In a pluralistic society this sort of disrespect for another&#039;s institution must not be tolerated.
We are constantly being told by law that we have to respect sacred Aboriginal sites because of their sacred meanings and traditions even though we may not agree with them.
To the Christian, marriage is as important as any &quot;sacred site&quot; is to the Aboriginal.
In the Bible, the word for sodomy refers to sex with animals as well as anal sex and represented the basest of human activity.
Allowing homosexual marriage is effectively &quot;sodomising&quot; the Church.
Jesus got angry when the temple was desecrated- out &quot;temple&quot; is also being desecrated, so its time for Christians to get angry and assertive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again i am surprised that as a Christian Lobby group, the fundamental &#8220;Christian-ness&#8221; of marriage is either missed or overlooked.<br />
Here is an extract of what I shall be sending to the Senate enquiry. </p>
<p>I contend that the heterosexual marriage argument will never be won on equal rights grounds. I believe the argument needs to be forcefully put from &#8220;a respect for cultural traditions&#8221; perspective.<br />
In our pluralistic society, tolerance for different ideas, persons, cultures, races and religions is paramount &#8211; unlike majoritarianism whereby the majority&#8217;s sentiments rain at the expense of the minority. Eg: We are asked to respect &#8220;gay rights&#8221;.<br />
Even though the majority of people identify as &#8220;Christians&#8221; actual practicing Christians are clearly in the minority.<br />
Holy matrimony (marriage) is a sacred institution to the Christian Church and goes beyond the simple joining of man and woman to form the union which enables God&#8217;s blessing of children to the couple.<br />
It symbolises the relationship of Christ to His church.<br />
As our Holy Scripture states:<br />
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. <br />
In Rev 21:9 the Church is referred to as &#8220;the wife of the Lamb&#8221;<br />
Marriage denotes intimacy where two become one flesh in the same way as through Holy Communion Christ and His Church become one.<br />
Christ is to the Church as Man is to Woman in marriage.</p>
<p>The marriage of man to man is blasphemous and strikes at the very foundation of the Christian doctrine.<br />
In a pluralistic society this sort of disrespect for another&#8217;s institution must not be tolerated.<br />
We are constantly being told by law that we have to respect sacred Aboriginal sites because of their sacred meanings and traditions even though we may not agree with them.<br />
To the Christian, marriage is as important as any &#8220;sacred site&#8221; is to the Aboriginal.<br />
In the Bible, the word for sodomy refers to sex with animals as well as anal sex and represented the basest of human activity.<br />
Allowing homosexual marriage is effectively &#8220;sodomising&#8221; the Church.<br />
Jesus got angry when the temple was desecrated- out &#8220;temple&#8221; is also being desecrated, so its time for Christians to get angry and assertive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Australian tour dates for Nefarious Merchant of Souls by Cecile</title>
		<link>http://www.acl.org.au/2012/02/australian-tour-dates-for-nefarious-merchant-of-souls/#comment-46695</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can copies of this DVD be purchased anywhere?</description>
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