Same-sex marriage has been legal in Ireland since 2015. What was happening back then? What has been happening since then? What can we learn from those experiences?

“The way people get onto the marriage, they think one size fits all, I don’t believe that the state can only recognise human relationships in one way.”

This week Lyle Shelton, the ACL managing director, speaks with Keith Mills, a gay man from Dublin and one of leading figures in the fight to preserve marriage in Ireland. They compare the difference between Ireland and Australia, talk about Keith’s personal experience of being abused through the campaign and the ramifications of redefining the marriage.